Thucydides - Revision history

Irlandos at 10:49, May 25, 2007

2007-05-25T10:49:54Z

Irlandos at 13:16, March 20, 2006

2006-03-20T13:16:03Z

Irlandos: /* References */

2006-03-20T13:15:20Z

References

Irlandos: /* External links */

2006-03-20T13:14:12Z

External links

Irlandos: /* References */

2006-03-20T13:13:53Z

References

Irlandos: /* Notes */

2006-03-20T13:13:20Z

Notes

Irlandos: /* The History of the Peloponnesian War */

2006-03-20T13:11:36Z

The History of the Peloponnesian War

Irlandos at 13:10, March 20, 2006

2006-03-20T13:10:46Z

Irlandos at 13:06, March 20, 2006

2006-03-20T13:06:24Z

Irlandos at 12:17, November 18, 2005

2005-11-18T12:17:47Z

← Older revision		Revision as of 10:49, May 25, 2007
Line 108:		Line 108:
	[[Category:Ancient Greek historians]]		[[Category:Ancient Greek historians]]
	[[Category:Ancient Athenians]]		[[Category:Ancient Athenians]]
		+	[[Category:Peloponnesian War]]

← Older revision		Revision as of 13:16, March 20, 2006
Line 1:		Line 1:
−	'''Thucydides''' (between [[460 BC\|460]] and [[455 BC]]–circa [[400 BC]], [[~~Ancient~~ Greek\|Greek]] Θουκυδίδης, ''Thoukudídês'') was an [[Hellenic civilization\|ancient Greek]] historian, and the author of the ''[[History of the Peloponnesian War]],'' which recounts the [[5th century BC]] war between [[Sparta]] and [[Athens]]. This work is widely regarded a classic, and represents the first work of its kind.	+	'''Thucydides''' (between [[460 BC\|460]] and [[455 BC]]–circa [[400 BC]], [[Greek language\|Greek]] Θουκυδίδης, ''Thoukudídês'') was an [[Hellenic civilization\|ancient Greek]] historian, and the author of the ''[[History of the Peloponnesian War]],'' which recounts the [[5th century BC]] war between [[Sparta]] and [[Athens]]. This work is widely regarded a classic, and represents the first work of its kind.

	== Life ==		== Life ==

@@ Line 91: / Line 91: @@
 * Romilly, Jacqueline de, ''Thucydides and Athenian Imperialism''. Oxford: Basil Blackwell (1963). ISBN 0881430722.
 * Rood, Tim, ''Thucydides: Narrative and Explanation''. Oxford: Oxford University Press (1998). ISBN 0199275858.
-* {{cite book | author=Russett, Bruce | title=Grasping the Democratic Peace | publisher=Princeton University Press | year=1993 | id=ISBN 0691033463 }}
+* Russett, Bruce Grasping the Democratic Peace Princeton University Press (1993). ISBN 0691033463.
 * Strassler, Robert B, ed. ''The Landmark Thucydides: A Comprehensive Guide to the Peloponnesian War''. New York: Free Press (1996). ISBN 0684828154.

← Older revision		Revision as of 13:14, March 20, 2006
Line 99:		Line 99:
	* [http://www-rci.rutgers.edu/~edmunds/thuc.html Short Bibliography on Thucydides] Lowell Edmunds, Rutgers University		* [http://www-rci.rutgers.edu/~edmunds/thuc.html Short Bibliography on Thucydides] Lowell Edmunds, Rutgers University
	* Perseus Project [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0200;layout=;query=toc;loc=1.1.1 Thucydides, Table of Contents]		* Perseus Project [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0200;layout=;query=toc;loc=1.1.1 Thucydides, Table of Contents]
		+
		+
		+	{{Credit wikipedia}}

@@ Line 79: / Line 79: @@
 ==References==
 '''Primary Sources'''
-* [[Herodotus]], [[The Histories of Herodotus|''Histories'']], [[A. D. Godley]] (translator), Cambridge: Harvard University Press (1920). ISBN 0674991338[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Hdt.+toc &nbsp;].
+* [[Herodotus]], [[The Histories of Herodotus|''Histories'']], A. D. Godley (translator), Cambridge: Harvard University Press (1920). ISBN 0674991338[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Hdt.+toc &nbsp;].
-* [[Pausanias (geographer)|Pausanias]], ''Description of Greece'', Books I-II,  ([[Loeb Classical Library]]) translated by W. H. S. Jones; Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. (1918). ISBN 0674991044.[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Paus.+1.1.1 &nbsp;].
+* [[Pausanias (geographer)|Pausanias]], ''Description of Greece'', Books I-II,  (Loeb Classical Library) translated by W. H. S. Jones; Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. (1918). ISBN 0674991044.[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Paus.+1.1.1 &nbsp;].
 * [[Plutarch]], [[Parallel Lives|''Lives'']], Bernadotte Perrin (translator), Cambridge, MA. Harvard University Press. London. William Heinemann Ltd. (1914). ISBN 0674990536[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0182;query=toc;layout=;loc=Cim.%201.1 &nbsp;].
 * Thucydides, ''The Peloponnesian War''. London, J. M. Dent; New York, E. P. Dutton (1910).[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+toc &nbsp;].

@@ Line 64: / Line 64: @@
 ==Notes==
-{{ent|1|Thucy_4.104.4}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.104.4 4.104.4].
+[1] Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.104.4 4.104.4].
-{{ent|2|Herod_6.39.1}} Herodotus [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Hdt.+6.39.1 6.39.1].
+[2] Herodotus [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Hdt.+6.39.1 6.39.1].
-{{ent|3|Herod_6.46.1;Thuc_4.105.1;Plut_Cim_4.1}} Herodotus [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Hdt.+6.46.1 6.46.1]; Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.105.1 4.105.1], Plutarch, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Plut.+Cim.+4.1 Cimon 4.1].
+[3] Herodotus [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Hdt.+6.46.1 6.46.1]; Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.105.1 4.105.1], Plutarch, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Plut.+Cim.+4.1 Cimon 4.1].
-{{ent|4|Thuc_2.48.1-3}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+2.48.1 2.48.1&ndash;3].
+[4] Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+2.48.1 2.48.1&ndash;3].
-{{ent|5|Thuc_3.87.1-3}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+3.87.1 3.87.1&ndash;3].
+[5] Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+3.87.1 3.87.1&ndash;3].
-{{ent|6|Thuc_4.104.1}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.104.1 4.104.1].
+[6] Thuc_4.104.1}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.104.1 4.104.1].
-{{ent|7|Thuc_4.105.1-106.3}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.105.1 4.105.1&ndash;106.3].
+[7] Thuc_4.105.1-106.3}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.105.1 4.105.1&ndash;106.3].
-{{ent|8|Thuc_4.108.1-7}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.108.1 4.108.1&ndash;7].
+[8] Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.108.1 4.108.1&ndash;7].
-{{ent|9|Thuc_5.26.5}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+5.26.5 5.26.5].
+[9] Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+5.26.5 5.26.5].
 [10] Pausanias [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Paus.+1.23.9 1.23.9].
 [11] Plutarch, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Plut.+Cim.+4.1 Cimon 4.1].

@@ Line 46: / Line 46: @@
 :Though many lay unburied, birds and beasts would not touch them, or died after tasting them. ... The bodies of dying men lay one upon another, and half-dead creatures reeled about the streets and gathered round all the fountains in their longing for water. The sacred places also in which they had quartered themselves were full of corpses of persons that had died there, just as they were; for as the disaster passed all bounds, men, not knowing what was to become of them, became utterly careless of everything, whether sacred or profane. All the burial rites before in use were entirely upset, and they buried the bodies as best they could. Many from want of the proper appliances, through so many of their friends having died already, had recourse to the most shameless sepultures: sometimes getting the start of those who had raised a pile, they threw their own dead body upon the stranger's pyre and ignited it; sometimes they tossed the corpse which they were carrying on the top of another that was burning, and so went off.
-Classical scholar Jacqueline de Romilly first pointed out, just after the second world war, that one of Thucydides' central themes was the ethic of Athenian imperialism. Her analysis put his history in the context of greek thought on the topic of international politics. Since her fundamental study, many scholars have studied the theme of power politics, i.e. [[real-politik]], in Thucydides' history.
+Classical scholar Jacqueline de Romilly first pointed out, just after the second world war, that one of Thucydides' central themes was the ethic of Athenian imperialism. Her analysis put his history in the context of greek thought on the topic of international politics. Since her fundamental study, many scholars have studied the theme of power politics, i.e. real-politik, in Thucydides' history.
 On the other hand, some authors, including Richard Ned Lebow, reject the common perception of Thucydides as a historian of naked real-politik. They argue that actors on the world stage who had read his work would all have been put on notice that someone would be scrutinizing their actions with a reporter's dispassion, rather than the mythmaker's and poet's compassion and thus consciously or unconsciously participating in the writing of it. His [[Melian dialogue]] is a lesson to reporters and to those who believe one's leaders are always acting with perfect integrity on the world stage.
@@ Line 52: / Line 52: @@
 Thucydides does not take the time to discuss the arts, literature or society in which the book is set and in which Thucydides himself grew up. Thucydides was writing about an event and not a period and as such took lengths not to discuss anything which he considered unrelated.
-[[Leo Strauss]], as often, argued that Thucydides had a deep-seated dislike of democracy; it is less controversial to view him as recognizing that democracies do need leadership - and that leadership can be dangerous to democracy.[12]
+Leo Strauss, as often, argued that Thucydides had a deep-seated dislike of democracy; it is less controversial to view him as recognizing that democracies do need leadership - and that leadership can be dangerous to democracy.[12]
 == Quotes ==

@@ Line 2: / Line 2: @@
 == Life ==
-Almost everything we know about the life of Thucydides comes from his own ''History of the Peloponnesian War''. Thucydides' father was [[Olorus]],{{rf|1|Thucy_4.104.4}} a name connected with [[Thrace]] and Thracian royalty.{{rf|2|Herod_6.39.1}} He was a man of influence and wealth. He owned gold mines at [[Scapte Hyle]], a district of Thrace on the [[Thrace|Thracian]] coast opposite the island of [[Thasos]].{{rf|3|Herod_6.46.1;Thuc_4.105.1;Plut_Cim_4.1}}
+Almost everything we know about the life of Thucydides comes from his own ''History of the Peloponnesian War''. Thucydides' father was [[Olorus]],[1] a name connected with [[Thrace]] and Thracian royalty.[2] He was a man of influence and wealth. He owned gold mines at [[Scapte Hyle]], a district of Thrace on the [[Thrace|Thracian]] coast opposite the island of [[Thasos]].[3]
-Thucydides, born in [[Alimos]], was connected through family to the Athenian statesman and general [[Miltiades]], and his son [[Cimon]], leaders of the old [[aristocracy]] supplanted by the Radical [[democracy|Democrats]]. Thucydides lived between his two homes, in [[Athens]] and in Thrace.  His family connections brought him into contact with the very men who were shaping the history he wrote about.
+Thucydides, born in [[Alimos]], was connected through family to the Athenian statesman and general [[Miltiades]], and his son [[Cimon]], leaders of the old aristocracy supplanted by the Radical Democrats. Thucydides lived between his two homes, in [[Athens]] and in Thrace.  His family connections brought him into contact with the very men who were shaping the history he wrote about.
-He was probably in his twenties when the [[Peloponnesian War]] began in [[431 BC]]. He contracted the [[Plague of Athens|plague]]{{rf|4|Thuc_2.48.1-3}} that ravaged Athens between [[430 BC|430]] and [[427 BC]], killing [[Pericles]], in [[429 BC]], along with thousands of other Athenians.{{rf|5|Thuc_3.87.1-3}}
+He was probably in his twenties when the [[Peloponnesian War]] began in [[431 BC]]. He contracted the [[Plague of Athens|plague]][4] that ravaged Athens between [[430 BC|430]] and [[427 BC]], killing [[Pericles]], in [[429 BC]], along with thousands of other Athenians.[5]
-In [[424 BC]] he was appointed [[strategos]] (general), and given command of a squadron of seven ships, stationed at Thasos, probably because of his connections to the area. During the winter of 424/3 BC, the Spartan general [[Brasidas]] attacked [[Amphipolis]], a half-day's sail west from Thasos on the Thracian coast. Eucles, the Athenian commander at Amphipolis, sent for assistance to Thucydides.{{rf|6|Thuc_4.104.1}}
+In [[424 BC]] he was appointed [[strategos]] (general), and given command of a squadron of seven ships, stationed at Thasos, probably because of his connections to the area. During the winter of 424/3 BC, the Spartan general [[Brasidas]] attacked [[Amphipolis]], a half-day's sail west from Thasos on the Thracian coast. Eucles, the Athenian commander at Amphipolis, sent for assistance to Thucydides.[6]
-Brasidas, aware of Thucydides' presence on Thasos and his influence with the people of Amphipolis and afraid of help arriving by sea, acted quickly to offer moderate terms to the Amphipolitans for their surrender, which they accepted. Thus when Thucydides arrived, Amphipolis was already under Spartan control{{rf|7|Thuc_4.105.1-106.3}} (see [[Battle of Amphipolis]]).
+Brasidas, aware of Thucydides' presence on Thasos and his influence with the people of Amphipolis and afraid of help arriving by sea, acted quickly to offer moderate terms to the Amphipolitans for their surrender, which they accepted. Thus when Thucydides arrived, Amphipolis was already under Spartan control[7] (see [[Battle of Amphipolis]]).
-Amphipolis was of considerable strategic importance, and news of its fall caused great consternation in Athens.{{rf|8|Thuc_4.108.1-7}} Because of his failure to save Amphipolis, Thucydides says:
+Amphipolis was of considerable strategic importance, and news of its fall caused great consternation in Athens.[8] Because of his failure to save Amphipolis, Thucydides says:
-:It was also my fate to be an exile from my country for twenty years after my command at Amphipolis; and being present with both parties, and more especially with the Peloponnesians by reason of my exile, I had leisure to observe affairs somewhat particularly.{{rf|9|Thuc_5.26.5}}
+:It was also my fate to be an exile from my country for twenty years after my command at Amphipolis; and being present with both parties, and more especially with the Peloponnesians by reason of my exile, I had leisure to observe affairs somewhat particularly.[9]
 Using his status as an exile from Athens to travel freely among the Peloponnesian allies, he was able to view the war from the perspective of both sides. During this period of time he conducted important research for his history.
-The remaining evidence for Thucydides' life comes from less reliable later ancient sources. According to [[Pausanias (geographer)|Pausanias]], someone named Oenobius was able to get a law passed allowing Thucydides to return to Athens, presumably sometime shortly after Athens' surrender and the end of the war in [[404 BC]].{{rf|10|Paus_1.23.9}} Pausanias goes on to say that Thucydides was murdered on his way back to Athens. Many doubt this account, seeing evidence to suggest he lived as late as [[397 BC]]. [[Plutarch]] claims that his remains were returned to Athens and placed in [[Cimon]]'s family vault.{{rf|11|Plut_Cim_4.1}}
+The remaining evidence for Thucydides' life comes from less reliable later ancient sources. According to [[Pausanias (geographer)|Pausanias]], someone named Oenobius was able to get a law passed allowing Thucydides to return to Athens, presumably sometime shortly after Athens' surrender and the end of the war in [[404 BC]].[10] Pausanias goes on to say that Thucydides was murdered on his way back to Athens. Many doubt this account, seeing evidence to suggest he lived as late as [[397 BC]]. [[Plutarch]] claims that his remains were returned to Athens and placed in [[Cimon]]'s family vault.[11]
 The abrupt end of his narrative, which breaks off in the middle of the year [[411 BC]], strongly suggests that he died while writing the book.

← Older revision		Revision as of 13:06, March 20, 2006
Line 1:		Line 1:
−	~~Ancient Athenian historian~~ (~~470 - 395~~ BC) ~~whose greatest work~~ was the ~~history~~ of the [[Peloponnesian War]].	+	'''Thucydides''' (between [[460 BC\|460]] and [[455 BC]]–circa [[400 BC]], [[Ancient Greek\|Greek]] Θουκυδίδης, ''Thoukudídês'') was an [[Hellenic civilization\|ancient Greek]] historian, and the author of the ''[[History of the Peloponnesian War]],'' which recounts the [[5th century BC]] war between [[Sparta]] and [[Athens]]. This work is widely regarded a classic, and represents the first work of its kind.

−	[[Category:Ancient ~~Greeks~~]]	+	== Life ==
		+	Almost everything we know about the life of Thucydides comes from his own ''History of the Peloponnesian War''. Thucydides' father was [[Olorus]],{{rf\|1\|Thucy_4.104.4}} a name connected with [[Thrace]] and Thracian royalty.{{rf\|2\|Herod_6.39.1}} He was a man of influence and wealth. He owned gold mines at [[Scapte Hyle]], a district of Thrace on the [[Thrace\|Thracian]] coast opposite the island of [[Thasos]].{{rf\|3\|Herod_6.46.1;Thuc_4.105.1;Plut_Cim_4.1}}
		+	Thucydides, born in [[Alimos]], was connected through family to the Athenian statesman and general [[Miltiades]], and his son [[Cimon]], leaders of the old [[aristocracy]] supplanted by the Radical [[democracy\|Democrats]]. Thucydides lived between his two homes, in [[Athens]] and in Thrace. His family connections brought him into contact with the very men who were shaping the history he wrote about.
		+
		+	He was probably in his twenties when the [[Peloponnesian War]] began in [[431 BC]]. He contracted the [[Plague of Athens\|plague]]{{rf\|4\|Thuc_2.48.1-3}} that ravaged Athens between [[430 BC\|430]] and [[427 BC]], killing [[Pericles]], in [[429 BC]], along with thousands of other Athenians.{{rf\|5\|Thuc_3.87.1-3}}
		+
		+	In [[424 BC]] he was appointed [[strategos]] (general), and given command of a squadron of seven ships, stationed at Thasos, probably because of his connections to the area. During the winter of 424/3 BC, the Spartan general [[Brasidas]] attacked [[Amphipolis]], a half-day's sail west from Thasos on the Thracian coast. Eucles, the Athenian commander at Amphipolis, sent for assistance to Thucydides.{{rf\|6\|Thuc_4.104.1}}
		+
		+	Brasidas, aware of Thucydides' presence on Thasos and his influence with the people of Amphipolis and afraid of help arriving by sea, acted quickly to offer moderate terms to the Amphipolitans for their surrender, which they accepted. Thus when Thucydides arrived, Amphipolis was already under Spartan control{{rf\|7\|Thuc_4.105.1-106.3}} (see [[Battle of Amphipolis]]).
		+
		+	Amphipolis was of considerable strategic importance, and news of its fall caused great consternation in Athens.{{rf\|8\|Thuc_4.108.1-7}} Because of his failure to save Amphipolis, Thucydides says:
		+
		+	:It was also my fate to be an exile from my country for twenty years after my command at Amphipolis; and being present with both parties, and more especially with the Peloponnesians by reason of my exile, I had leisure to observe affairs somewhat particularly.{{rf\|9\|Thuc_5.26.5}}
		+
		+	Using his status as an exile from Athens to travel freely among the Peloponnesian allies, he was able to view the war from the perspective of both sides. During this period of time he conducted important research for his history.
		+
		+	The remaining evidence for Thucydides' life comes from less reliable later ancient sources. According to [[Pausanias (geographer)\|Pausanias]], someone named Oenobius was able to get a law passed allowing Thucydides to return to Athens, presumably sometime shortly after Athens' surrender and the end of the war in [[404 BC]].{{rf\|10\|Paus_1.23.9}} Pausanias goes on to say that Thucydides was murdered on his way back to Athens. Many doubt this account, seeing evidence to suggest he lived as late as [[397 BC]]. [[Plutarch]] claims that his remains were returned to Athens and placed in [[Cimon]]'s family vault.{{rf\|11\|Plut_Cim_4.1}}
		+
		+	The abrupt end of his narrative, which breaks off in the middle of the year [[411 BC]], strongly suggests that he died while writing the book.
		+
		+	==Education==
		+	Although there is no certain evidence to prove it, the rhetorical character of his narrative suggests that Thucydides was at least familiar with the teachings of the [[Sophists]]. These men were traveling lecturers, who frequented [[Athens]] and other Greek cities.
		+
		+	It has also been asserted that Thucydides' strict focus on cause and effect, his fastidious devotion to observable phenomena to the exclusion of other factors and his austere prose style were influenced by the methods and thinking of early medical writers such as [[Hippocrates]] of [[Kos]]. Some have gone so far as to assert that Thucydides had some medical training.
		+
		+	Both of these theories are inferences from the perceived character of Thucydides' History. While neither can be categorically rejected, there is no firm evidence for either.
		+
		+	==Character==
		+	His character]] was said to be dry and pessimistic. Occasionally throughout "The History of the Peloponnesian War" his sardonic sense of humor is hinted at, such as during the Athenian plague (Book II), when he remarks that some old Athenians seemed to remembered a rhyme that said with the [[Dorian War]] would come a "great death." Some claimed the rhyme was actually about a "great dearth," and was only remembered as "death" due to the current plague. Thucydides then remarks that, should another Dorian War come, this time attended with a great dearth, the rhyme will remembered as "dearth," and any mention of "death" forgotten.
		+
		+	Thucydides admired [[Pericles]] and approved of his power over the people, though he detested the more pandering demagogues who followed him. Thucydides did not approve of the radical democracy Pericles ushered in but thought that it was acceptable when in the hands of a good leader.
		+
		+	==The History of the Peloponnesian War==
		+	Thucydides wrote only one book; its modern title is the ''[[History of the Peloponnesian War]]''. All his legacy to history and historiography is contained in this one dense history of the [[Peloponnesian War\|twenty-seven year war]] between [[Athens]] and her allies and [[Sparta]] and her allies. The history breaks off near the end of the twenty-first year.
		+
		+	Thucydides is generally regarded as one of the first true historians. Unlike his predecessor [[Herodotus]] (often called "the father of history") who included rumors and references to myths and the gods in his writing, Thucydides assiduously consulted written documents and interviewed participants in the events that he records. Certainly he held unconscious biases — for example, to modern eyes he seems to underestimate the importance of Persian intervention — but Thucydides was the first historian who seems to be attempting to be completely objective. By his discovery of [http://strongbrains.com/pages/bookreview1.htm historic causation] he created the first scientific approach to history.
		+
		+	One major difference between Thucydides' history and modern historical writing is that Thucydides' history includes lengthy speeches which, as he himself describes, were as best as could be remembered of what was said (or, perhaps, what he thought ought to have been said). These speeches are composed in a literary manner. Take, for example, [[Pericles\|Pericles']] funeral speech, which includes an impassioned moral defense of democracy, heaping honor on the dead:
		+
		+	:The whole earth is the sepulchre of famous men; they are honoured not only by columns and inscriptions in their own land, but in foreign nations on memorials graven not on stone but in the hearts and minds of men.
		+
		+	Although attributed to Pericles, this passage appears to have been written by Thucydides for deliberate contrast with the account of the plague in [[Athens]] which immediately follows it:
		+
		+	:Though many lay unburied, birds and beasts would not touch them, or died after tasting them. ... The bodies of dying men lay one upon another, and half-dead creatures reeled about the streets and gathered round all the fountains in their longing for water. The sacred places also in which they had quartered themselves were full of corpses of persons that had died there, just as they were; for as the disaster passed all bounds, men, not knowing what was to become of them, became utterly careless of everything, whether sacred or profane. All the burial rites before in use were entirely upset, and they buried the bodies as best they could. Many from want of the proper appliances, through so many of their friends having died already, had recourse to the most shameless sepultures: sometimes getting the start of those who had raised a pile, they threw their own dead body upon the stranger's pyre and ignited it; sometimes they tossed the corpse which they were carrying on the top of another that was burning, and so went off.
		+
		+	Classical scholar Jacqueline de Romilly first pointed out, just after the second world war, that one of Thucydides' central themes was the ethic of Athenian imperialism. Her analysis put his history in the context of greek thought on the topic of international politics. Since her fundamental study, many scholars have studied the theme of power politics, i.e. [[real-politik]], in Thucydides' history.
		+
		+	On the other hand, some authors, including Richard Ned Lebow, reject the common perception of Thucydides as a historian of naked real-politik. They argue that actors on the world stage who had read his work would all have been put on notice that someone would be scrutinizing their actions with a reporter's dispassion, rather than the mythmaker's and poet's compassion and thus consciously or unconsciously participating in the writing of it. His [[Melian dialogue]] is a lesson to reporters and to those who believe one's leaders are always acting with perfect integrity on the world stage.
		+
		+	Thucydides does not take the time to discuss the arts, literature or society in which the book is set and in which Thucydides himself grew up. Thucydides was writing about an event and not a period and as such took lengths not to discuss anything which he considered unrelated.
		+
		+	[[Leo Strauss]], as often, argued that Thucydides had a deep-seated dislike of democracy; it is less controversial to view him as recognizing that democracies do need leadership - and that leadership can be dangerous to democracy.[12]
		+
		+	== Quotes ==
		+	*"The bravest are surely those who have the clearest vision of what is before them, glory and danger alike, and yet notwithstanding, go out to meet it."
		+	*"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must."
		+	*"It is a general rule of human nature that people despise those who treat them well, and look up to those who make no concessions."
		+	*"Wars spring from unseen and generally insignificant causes, the first outbreak being often but an explosion of anger."
		+	*"The society that separates its scholars from its warriors will have its thinking done by cowards and its fighting by fools."
		+	*"War takes away the easy supply of daily wants, and so proves a rough master, that brings most men's characters to a level with their fortunes."
		+	*"The standard of justice depends on the equality of power to compel it"
		+
		+	==Notes==
		+	{{ent\|1\|Thucy_4.104.4}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.104.4 4.104.4].
		+	{{ent\|2\|Herod_6.39.1}} Herodotus [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Hdt.+6.39.1 6.39.1].
		+	{{ent\|3\|Herod_6.46.1;Thuc_4.105.1;Plut_Cim_4.1}} Herodotus [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Hdt.+6.46.1 6.46.1]; Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.105.1 4.105.1], Plutarch, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Plut.+Cim.+4.1 Cimon 4.1].
		+	{{ent\|4\|Thuc_2.48.1-3}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+2.48.1 2.48.1–3].
		+	{{ent\|5\|Thuc_3.87.1-3}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+3.87.1 3.87.1–3].
		+	{{ent\|6\|Thuc_4.104.1}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.104.1 4.104.1].
		+	{{ent\|7\|Thuc_4.105.1-106.3}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.105.1 4.105.1–106.3].
		+	{{ent\|8\|Thuc_4.108.1-7}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+4.108.1 4.108.1–7].
		+	{{ent\|9\|Thuc_5.26.5}} Thucydides [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+5.26.5 5.26.5].
		+	[10] Pausanias [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Paus.+1.23.9 1.23.9].
		+	[11] Plutarch, [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Plut.+Cim.+4.1 Cimon 4.1].
		+	[12] Russett p.45.
		+
		+	==References==
		+	'''Primary Sources'''
		+	* [[Herodotus]], [[The Histories of Herodotus\|''Histories'']], [[A. D. Godley]] (translator), Cambridge: Harvard University Press (1920). ISBN 0674991338[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Hdt.+toc  ].
		+	* [[Pausanias (geographer)\|Pausanias]], ''Description of Greece'', Books I-II, ([[Loeb Classical Library]]) translated by W. H. S. Jones; Cambridge, Massachusetts: Harvard University Press; London, William Heinemann Ltd. (1918). ISBN 0674991044.[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Paus.+1.1.1  ].
		+	* [[Plutarch]], [[Parallel Lives\|''Lives'']], Bernadotte Perrin (translator), Cambridge, MA. Harvard University Press. London. William Heinemann Ltd. (1914). ISBN 0674990536[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0182;query=toc;layout=;loc=Cim.%201.1  ].
		+	* Thucydides, ''The Peloponnesian War''. London, J. M. Dent; New York, E. P. Dutton (1910).[http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?lookup=Thuc.+toc  ].
		+
		+	'''Secondary Sources'''
		+	* Connor, W. Robert, ''Thucydides''. Princeton: Princeton University Press (1984). ISBN 0691035695.
		+	* Hornblower, Simon, ''A Commentary on Thucydides''. 2 vols. Oxford: Clarendon (1991-1996). ISBN 0198150997 (vol. 1), ISBN 0199276250 (vol. 2).
		+	* Hornblower, Simon, ''Thucydides''. London: Duckworth (1987). ISBN 0715621564.
		+	* Luce, T.J., ''The Greek Historians''. London: Routledge (1997). ISBN 0415105935.
		+	* Romilly, Jacqueline de, ''Thucydides and Athenian Imperialism''. Oxford: Basil Blackwell (1963). ISBN 0881430722.
		+	* Rood, Tim, ''Thucydides: Narrative and Explanation''. Oxford: Oxford University Press (1998). ISBN 0199275858.
		+	* {{cite book \| author=Russett, Bruce \| title=Grasping the Democratic Peace \| publisher=Princeton University Press \| year=1993 \| id=ISBN 0691033463 }}
		+	* Strassler, Robert B, ed. ''The Landmark Thucydides: A Comprehensive Guide to the Peloponnesian War''. New York: Free Press (1996). ISBN 0684828154.
		+
		+	==External links==
		+	*[http://www.quote-fox.com/QuoteFox/plBrowse.php/?browse_cmd=browse_source&author_name=Thucydides Thucydides Quotes]
		+	* Works by Thucydides
		+	* [http://www-rci.rutgers.edu/~edmunds/thuc.html Short Bibliography on Thucydides] Lowell Edmunds, Rutgers University
		+	* Perseus Project [http://www.perseus.tufts.edu/cgi-bin/ptext?doc=Perseus%3Atext%3A1999.01.0200;layout=;query=toc;loc=1.1.1 Thucydides, Table of Contents]
		+
		+
		+	[[Category:460 BC births]]
		+	[[Category:395 BC deaths]]
		+	[[Category:Ancient Greek historians]]
		+	[[Category:Ancient Athenians]]

← Older revision		Revision as of 12:17, November 18, 2005
Line 1:		Line 1:
−	Ancient Athenian historian (470 - 395 BC) whose greatest work was the history of the [[~~Peloponnesean~~ War]].	+	Ancient Athenian historian (470 - 395 BC) whose greatest work was the history of the [[Peloponnesian War]].

	[[Category:Ancient Greeks]]		[[Category:Ancient Greeks]]