Talk:Hugh de Champlitte
How can we relate this to Greek history? I propose a new category, something like "Latin Empire", that can be a sub-category in Byzantine Empire. Or, we can have both as subcategories to "Mediaeval Greece", itself a sub-category of Greek history. What sayeth ye? --Irlandos 03:15, February 13, 2009 (EST)
Hugh was involved in the battle of Constantinople, battles around Thessaloniki; 3 battler in Pelopponese, was a "ruler" in Achaia for one year, died in Greece. His and his uncle's descendends still live in Greece and are Greek. He is part of Greek History the same wasy as Ypsilantis and Kolokotronis were. Akrogiali
I agree he belongs but how do we categorise him? We like to tie historical subjects together through categories and subcategories. If you look at Category:History of Greece (below), you will see what I mean --Irlandos 07:59, February 13, 2009 (EST)
There are some categories like: Medieval Greece; Byzantine Greece; Greek Families; (Greece: Frank Rulers); (Greece: Latin Rulers);
Also with the opportunity: You change the word "Greek" to "Greek Language". That is wrong: Greeks speak Greek. The question is: Do you Speak Greek? The Alphabet is Greek. Greeks speak Greek. The word "Language" never appears in our spoken or written Greek. Why changing everything from Greek: (NAME) to Greek Language: (Name). It does not make any sense.
Akrogiali, in English "Greek" is an adjective. An adjective modifies a noun. In your case, you it modifies the Greek language. The entry "Greek" will send you to a disambiguation page. Greek language will send you directly to the language. You are correct in saying that the word "language" should not appear. This is achieved by writing Greek. The reader will see "Greek" but a click will send him to the article on the Greek language. --Irlandos 03:40, February 14, 2009 (EST)
Latins were the "Italians" in Greece. Acciaiuli; Pallavicini;Zaccaria; Dalle Carceri; Sanudo; Dandolo; Crispo; Ghisi;Sommaripa etc.
The Champlittes were from France. Anyone who was not a Latin, was a "Frank" that includes the Dutch (Flanders and Hainault) the Germans: Hohenstaufen the French: Courtenay; De La Roche; d'Anjou; de Brienne;de Valois; De Burgundy; de Champagne; etc. Latins and Franks are two different "races".
There is no true Greek without Latin blood and there is no true Latin without Greek blood. (una fatsa una ratsa)
Ok then the category will shall use for Franks and Latins that descended upon us after 1204 will be "Medieval Greece". I will even go along with your spelling (ain't I a nice guy!) as here we write "Mediaeval". Btw, both English and American spellings are used in this site. We are quite easy-going and don't minder either (ay-ther/ee-ther - again your choice). All the best - --Irlandos 03:40, February 14, 2009 (EST)